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Super Stunner 6 & Super Scope F.A.Q.
What is the Super Scope (SS)?
Nintendo made a light gun for the Super Nintendo. Unlike the zapper it was a bigger bazooka. Released early in the SNES life-cycle it was advance for its time. However, it was not successful; expensive,awkward, battery draining, receiver on your TV, & known to skip shots.
Yet, a number of players did enjoy the games it had back in the day.
Nintendo made a light gun for the Super Nintendo. Unlike the zapper it was a bigger bazooka. Released early in the SNES life-cycle it was advance for its time. However, it was not successful; expensive,awkward, battery draining, receiver on your TV, & known to skip shots.
Yet, a number of players did enjoy the games it had back in the day.
What is the Super Stunner 6 (SS6)?
Its a Sega Saturn light gun modified to replace the Super Scope for use on the Super Nintendo. The Vintex 64 Team call it the "Super Stunner 6" It is also known as Stunner to Snes conversion.
Its a Sega Saturn light gun modified to replace the Super Scope for use on the Super Nintendo. The Vintex 64 Team call it the "Super Stunner 6" It is also known as Stunner to Snes conversion.
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Why make/sell the Super Stunner 6 (SS6)?
The Super Nintendo has a decent library of light gun games; some are pretty good! The Stunner is considered the best light gun every made. Take a good light-gun + decent light gun games = a good combination.
The Stunner is an arcade quality Sega Saturn fifth generation light gun put on a fourth generation Super Nintendo. To quote Miles Quaritch from Avatar: "A recon marine in an Avatar body... that's a potent mix! Gives me the goosebumps!"
The Super Nintendo has a decent library of light gun games; some are pretty good! The Stunner is considered the best light gun every made. Take a good light-gun + decent light gun games = a good combination.
The Stunner is an arcade quality Sega Saturn fifth generation light gun put on a fourth generation Super Nintendo. To quote Miles Quaritch from Avatar: "A recon marine in an Avatar body... that's a potent mix! Gives me the goosebumps!"
Will Super Scope games work on my Everdrive or Flash-carts?
Yes, load your backup/rom from flash-cart and shoot away.
Yes, load your backup/rom from flash-cart and shoot away.
Will your Super Stunner 6 (SS6) work on my SNES clone system?
Likely yes. For example Retron 5 work with Super Stunner 6, but not the original Super Scope. The data input are more direct with our stunner mod vs the IR/wireless for the original super scope.
Likely yes. For example Retron 5 work with Super Stunner 6, but not the original Super Scope. The data input are more direct with our stunner mod vs the IR/wireless for the original super scope.
What happened to your "Super Gun Con 6" project?
Sadly we canceled this project; as it be more expensive than current stunner mod. It also does not offer much more difference in function. This project was idea of converting the PSX Gun Con to Super Nintendo.
Sadly we canceled this project; as it be more expensive than current stunner mod. It also does not offer much more difference in function. This project was idea of converting the PSX Gun Con to Super Nintendo.
Where is an independent review of your Super Stunner 6?
Review by Boojakascha in our Video Testimonial page. He is very knowledgeable in all things light gun.
See "Anonymous" review in our standard Customer Testimonial page.
Review by Boojakascha in our Video Testimonial page. He is very knowledgeable in all things light gun.
See "Anonymous" review in our standard Customer Testimonial page.
What are the available/best Super Scope games?
See our "Scope Games category". Plenty info there to see.
See our "Scope Games category". Plenty info there to see.
- We & other believe: Battle Clash & Metal Combat are the best.
- Other noted: T2: The Arcade Game, Super Scope 6, Yoshi Safari & Lamborghini American Challenge.
- Can be fun too: Bazooka Blitzkrieg & X-Zone.
- Suggest review our titles description and pick what reflect your interests.
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You include free SNES light Gun Games with Super Stunner 6 purchase?
Yes, when buy a Super Stunner 6 you get choice of:
If I buy a 2nd Super Stunners can I choose different titles?
Yes, 2nd Stunner purchase, or returning Super Stunner customer, type in checkout notes the
Yes, when buy a Super Stunner 6 you get choice of:
- 3X Repo games: Battle Clash, Super Scope 6, & your choice from our shop or
- 2X 100% original/authentic: "Battle Clash" & "Super Scope 6".
- Please select no cart game if don't plan to use. Please support your fellow retro-gamer!
If I buy a 2nd Super Stunners can I choose different titles?
Yes, 2nd Stunner purchase, or returning Super Stunner customer, type in checkout notes the
- 2X repro Scope Games you like or
- 1X OEM Scope Game - sorry Bazooka Blitzkrieg & Lamborghini will not apply due to its cost.
Regarding Repo Scope Games, how do I select colors shells I like?
Simple write/type in the checkout notes the color shell you like. Red is a popular color option.
Simple write/type in the checkout notes the color shell you like. Red is a popular color option.
How does this Stunner mod work in simple language?
It re-uses the light sensors from the Stunner. We added extra buttons for fire, pauses, & courser.
All wired to donor Super Scope donor controller chip that wired directly into the SNES.
The SNES thinks a original Super Scope is hocked-up & firing.
It re-uses the light sensors from the Stunner. We added extra buttons for fire, pauses, & courser.
All wired to donor Super Scope donor controller chip that wired directly into the SNES.
The SNES thinks a original Super Scope is hocked-up & firing.
The Cable in my Super Scope Receiver or Super Stunner 6 is cut/damaged.
Do you have a replacement?
The cable is the same from all Super Scope receiver, use use it too for building our SS6. All you need to do is find a donor receiver, open it, and swap the cable. Just put the cable end out of the PCB socket & plug in the donor one.
Do you have a replacement?
The cable is the same from all Super Scope receiver, use use it too for building our SS6. All you need to do is find a donor receiver, open it, and swap the cable. Just put the cable end out of the PCB socket & plug in the donor one.
I'm having little bit of trouble getting SS6 or other light guns to work?
Try adjusting the brightness on your TV or turn down or off the lights in the room.
Try adjusting the brightness on your TV or turn down or off the lights in the room.
Any lag/delay when using “Super Stunner 6” compared to “Super Scope”?
No, the response is exact same, but likely better than original Super Scope. You'll likely notice it never misses a trigger pull or button push.
This is due to no wireless IR interface, our custom PCB with better direct circuit responses, & new quality buttons & microswitches used.
No, the response is exact same, but likely better than original Super Scope. You'll likely notice it never misses a trigger pull or button push.
This is due to no wireless IR interface, our custom PCB with better direct circuit responses, & new quality buttons & microswitches used.
Do you test each Stunner before ship?
Yes. Every "Super Stunner 6" is carefully tested. We play/beat a full game of Battle Clash; to really make sure it works to top notch.
What happens if my Super Stunner 6 stops working in year or so?
We'll repair or send a working replacement. We just ask you send/ship the old one back.
If your bit good with hands and soldering iron maybe take a peak inside, & see if any loose wires or shorted wire or we'll ship you a controller chip to swap. You can simply fix it too if like too.
Yes. Every "Super Stunner 6" is carefully tested. We play/beat a full game of Battle Clash; to really make sure it works to top notch.
What happens if my Super Stunner 6 stops working in year or so?
We'll repair or send a working replacement. We just ask you send/ship the old one back.
If your bit good with hands and soldering iron maybe take a peak inside, & see if any loose wires or shorted wire or we'll ship you a controller chip to swap. You can simply fix it too if like too.
Do I have to use the Stunner aim on top barrel or can I use this free hand?
You can use it free hand, just give some time for your hand eye coordination. We are able to beat Battle clash & Bazooka Blitzkrieg free hand. Just take little time get used to & practice with game that lets you see your shots often. Most players play free hand.
You can use it free hand, just give some time for your hand eye coordination. We are able to beat Battle clash & Bazooka Blitzkrieg free hand. Just take little time get used to & practice with game that lets you see your shots often. Most players play free hand.
What proper distance to be from my TV?
You need to be little closer with Super Stunner 6 than the Super Scope. The way the stunner was designed. You may need to experiment with distance from your TV find the sweat spot.
You need to be little closer with Super Stunner 6 than the Super Scope. The way the stunner was designed. You may need to experiment with distance from your TV find the sweat spot.
What the story behind all the different Colors for the Stunner?
Sega originally released the all-black model in Japan. With plans to release it in North American. Due to how it could be mistaken for a real weapon, the all-orange model was released in North America. Europe got the blue model for the same reason. The original box art for Virtual Cop had all black guns. The Virtual Cop 2 box art had orange guns.
Later the stunner was re-released in Japan with the modified black model, with the nice logo, and yellow button/trigger. The black with yellow start/trigger is most popular with collectors. Our model also has a matching yellow pause button to maintain that look.
Sega originally released the all-black model in Japan. With plans to release it in North American. Due to how it could be mistaken for a real weapon, the all-orange model was released in North America. Europe got the blue model for the same reason. The original box art for Virtual Cop had all black guns. The Virtual Cop 2 box art had orange guns.
Later the stunner was re-released in Japan with the modified black model, with the nice logo, and yellow button/trigger. The black with yellow start/trigger is most popular with collectors. Our model also has a matching yellow pause button to maintain that look.
Do you sell the blue or orange version of the Stunners? What color stock is limited?
The blue & orange stunner are not easy to come by and can be very expensive; so we don't carry many.
The black colors are common and we plan keep in stock. We had orange past years, but only had one or two blue. We may have some orange in stock from time to time. Ask and we'll check.
The blue & orange stunner are not easy to come by and can be very expensive; so we don't carry many.
The black colors are common and we plan keep in stock. We had orange past years, but only had one or two blue. We may have some orange in stock from time to time. Ask and we'll check.
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I have a dead spot to the left side of my TV; is your Super Stunner 6 defective?
I have a dead spot with my Super Scope will I have the same dead spot with your SS6?
Some TVs’ have dead spots; way some TVs’ are made. The most common issue few inches to left or right side of TV trim. This is due to the TV not the Super Scope or Super Stunner 6.
We sadly have no solution to this. If happens on your original scope/light gun will happen with our Stunner mod. We recommend try different Tube TV’s and when find a good TV hang onto it.
Many light gun retro games have a specific TV they keep just for light guns.
I have a dead spot with my Super Scope will I have the same dead spot with your SS6?
Some TVs’ have dead spots; way some TVs’ are made. The most common issue few inches to left or right side of TV trim. This is due to the TV not the Super Scope or Super Stunner 6.
We sadly have no solution to this. If happens on your original scope/light gun will happen with our Stunner mod. We recommend try different Tube TV’s and when find a good TV hang onto it.
Many light gun retro games have a specific TV they keep just for light guns.
Any advice on getting a good retro gaming CRT TV for light gun?
Never take apart or put your hand insides an older CRT TV they have high voltage booting capacitors which are not safe to touch or work around! Be safe!
Ask around or look at local e-waste center if they'll let you re-buy or try/test some CRT TVs. Find out when your local town/city big disposal week is, then drive around during big disposal day for curb side pick-up. During these events many free TV's are set for disposal that still work.
Suggest try a few TV's and keep two (main and spare). Flat glass and more luxury model TV (which are normally better build) work well for light guns and nice to keep.
Never take apart or put your hand insides an older CRT TV they have high voltage booting capacitors which are not safe to touch or work around! Be safe!
Ask around or look at local e-waste center if they'll let you re-buy or try/test some CRT TVs. Find out when your local town/city big disposal week is, then drive around during big disposal day for curb side pick-up. During these events many free TV's are set for disposal that still work.
Suggest try a few TV's and keep two (main and spare). Flat glass and more luxury model TV (which are normally better build) work well for light guns and nice to keep.
What the accuracy/response of Super Stunner 6 compared to the Super Scope?
What is it like transition like from official Super Scope to your Super Stunner 6?
The accuracy/response is much better and games are less difficult. The Super Scope is awkward, lack response & speed. All this is fixed when using the Super Stunner 6. We personal beaten Super Scope 6: Lazerblazer-Engage & Lazerblazer-Confront , Battle Clash, X-Zone, & Bazooka Blitzkrieg on the hardest difficulty setting. This be near impossible with original super scope.
The original scope has an eye peace, while the Stunner aimed by your hand/eye coordination. Simply put, give the Stunner little bit of time; most players adapted well after few sittings.
The Vintex 64 PCB in the Super Stunner 6 was designed for very high circuit contact. So the buttons/fire response is very quick/responsive. Lets not forget the arcade quality microscopes which are much Superior to the Stunner OEM button trigger.
What is it like transition like from official Super Scope to your Super Stunner 6?
The accuracy/response is much better and games are less difficult. The Super Scope is awkward, lack response & speed. All this is fixed when using the Super Stunner 6. We personal beaten Super Scope 6: Lazerblazer-Engage & Lazerblazer-Confront , Battle Clash, X-Zone, & Bazooka Blitzkrieg on the hardest difficulty setting. This be near impossible with original super scope.
The original scope has an eye peace, while the Stunner aimed by your hand/eye coordination. Simply put, give the Stunner little bit of time; most players adapted well after few sittings.
The Vintex 64 PCB in the Super Stunner 6 was designed for very high circuit contact. So the buttons/fire response is very quick/responsive. Lets not forget the arcade quality microscopes which are much Superior to the Stunner OEM button trigger.
Where this idea/mod come from?
Credit to "micro". The original inventor of this conversion. Who wanted to play Metal Combat without the scope. He also released the design publicly. Thanks you! See his original video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1kHhWdUfY
Another individual known as "Boojakascha". Very knowledgeable light gun retro gamer did an excellent review/validation of the "micro" design. See his video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xdqbWUp5_Y
We refined the concept with tweak/improvements & designed a high end PCB for it; a PCB's more advance than those used in high end power supplies & with more copper than your budget cell phone.
Credit to "micro". The original inventor of this conversion. Who wanted to play Metal Combat without the scope. He also released the design publicly. Thanks you! See his original video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1kHhWdUfY
Another individual known as "Boojakascha". Very knowledgeable light gun retro gamer did an excellent review/validation of the "micro" design. See his video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xdqbWUp5_Y
We refined the concept with tweak/improvements & designed a high end PCB for it; a PCB's more advance than those used in high end power supplies & with more copper than your budget cell phone.
What is the MACS - Multi-Purpose Arcade Combat Simulator?
Does your Super Stunner 6 work with MACS game?
The US Army had a simulated assault rife & custom game made just for marksmanship training. This became known as the SNES MACS system. Army bases around the US has this system setup for training which used a regular SNES back in the day.
Sadly, it was not well received by Army personal and become unwanted & very rare item and seek out by collectors.
We made a mod with our Super Stunner 6 to have MACS support. Sadly, it very hard to use and not overly enjoyable. The MACS game need really high accuracy, tolerance and very good TV. We decided not to sell the MACS feature. We may re-review this in the future.
Sadly, it was not well received by Army personal and become unwanted & very rare item and seek out by collectors.
We made a mod with our Super Stunner 6 to have MACS support. Sadly, it very hard to use and not overly enjoyable. The MACS game need really high accuracy, tolerance and very good TV. We decided not to sell the MACS feature. We may re-review this in the future.
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Can you ship/sell the PCB with parts soldered on? So I can mod a Stunner myself?
For sure, decide your button locations, install them, and solder button wires. The PCB has clear identification markers for your button wires. You have choice to install micro switch for trigger or use original Stunner setup for trigger.
We suggest have two Stunner if something goes wrong, test your stunners beforehand (if possible), & remember to put the lenses back at end of barrow. Note, you need to remove some plastic near the trigger to fit the PCB lower. Suggest test fit the assembled PCB before do the button mod. The PCB fits in the stunner tight; is a press fit. You can drill holes bigger on PCB if want looser fit.
We answer questions to help your install, but we request you have some experience with this type of stuff, as not be best beginner project.
For sure, decide your button locations, install them, and solder button wires. The PCB has clear identification markers for your button wires. You have choice to install micro switch for trigger or use original Stunner setup for trigger.
We suggest have two Stunner if something goes wrong, test your stunners beforehand (if possible), & remember to put the lenses back at end of barrow. Note, you need to remove some plastic near the trigger to fit the PCB lower. Suggest test fit the assembled PCB before do the button mod. The PCB fits in the stunner tight; is a press fit. You can drill holes bigger on PCB if want looser fit.
We answer questions to help your install, but we request you have some experience with this type of stuff, as not be best beginner project.
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Is there any concern in shipping/owning something like this?
This is a video game controller or video game accessory. So perfectly fine to own/ship. They are being shipped/sold on eBay all the time. Shipping-customs may inspect it due to its shape or if you have word gun in paperwork. Most people note in shipping paperwork “Toy Gun” or “Video Game Controller Accessory” or "Video Game Input Device".
Other than that common sense prevails. Leave this at home.
This is a video game controller or video game accessory. So perfectly fine to own/ship. They are being shipped/sold on eBay all the time. Shipping-customs may inspect it due to its shape or if you have word gun in paperwork. Most people note in shipping paperwork “Toy Gun” or “Video Game Controller Accessory” or "Video Game Input Device".
Other than that common sense prevails. Leave this at home.
Anything new you guys are planning regarding SNES light gun technology?
- Looking at making a team to mod SNES Leatha Enforcers 1 & 2 software/code to support regular Super Scope / Super Stunner 6 & use both 2-player ports on SNES. Feel free to get the word around. To replicate the original physical gun not best way to go - due to Komai special custom chips inside.
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